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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Ha! This is amazing, every time I think we've got it figured it out someone else shows up with a good explanation. @Nycnite You're right that most of the effect I see is indeed BL's shift to Maps data (and the Edward Sturm podcast was also presenting grids from BL, so just trying to diagnose the...
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Hi Aldo, fully agree, the count of businesses occupying top3 spots in a grid tells us much of what we need to know; I also am not a big fan of average rank. I'll start comparing search pack and map results - that would be interesting. I generally only use grids without specifying a neighbourhood...
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Morning Joy, yes definitely impacting - calls/directions/clicks down. Yes, chrome browser searches still show local packs (no AI overviews), and the local pack results are like the maps results (i.e. proximity prioritised)
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Hi Kurt, yes unfortunately the change has 'stuck'. I've seen a striking increase in competitor ads. Strong listings still seem to be performing if the searcher is far away AND a location keyword is in the search, so "coffee shop in [neighbourhood]" would still prioritise the more prominent...
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Ah ha! Glad to know I'm not going insane! Thanks both. @Arthur yes that's exactly the issue I have (UK). Our other location (same category) in a less densely packed area ranks much better than our one in a dense one.
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Hi Joy the industry is massage. The keywords are massage-related (deep tissue, sports etc), no location specified, just rely on searcher's location. As you might imagine there are adult-adjacent listings too that we have to compete with that would previously have had low/zero visibility. I was...
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    Places Scout (What Search Tracker Do You Use?)

    I just started using dataforseo.com and have been busy manually checking against a phone with GPS spoofed - results match extremely closely (identical top 10, with one or two places swapped but no major outliers)
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Hi Ben, thank you for the reply! The three most recent reviews were today, 2 days ago, and 2 weeks ago. We don't solicit reviews and they trickle in at maybe 3-4/month. We have over 400, and 4.8 overall. It's not so much that we have dropped or that a new competitor has risen, but everyone has...
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Me again.. I've now done a manual walkabout with a logged-in phone, and cross-checked a dozen grid points. The results closely match the rank tracker search grids which ran just a few hours earlier, so I think we can rule out results poisoning, especially as the search grids have been very...
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Thanks Joy, I had thought maps searches were still reliable, and certainly didn't know that simple incognito searches from an otherwise normal mobile would be affected! Sorry, I mis-read your post, I see you specified i should be logged in. I'll have to walk around and check. I always (used to)...
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Yes I checked with a 'walkabout' when i noticed it a few days ago, and also created my own grid using dataforseo's API, and they match up. When doing an 'incognito search' i open an incognito chrome tab on mobile, go to the google maps on the browser (not the maps app), allow location access and...
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    I should add that brightlocal changed their own grids in the same period, increasing search depth from 20 to 100, but i see the same average ranking drops even normalising for that
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Hi Joy, I use brightlocal - here's a before and after pic of the grid. i also cross-check with dataforseo data, with the same finding. similar result across different search terms and different locations. but the same result for previous 3-pack dominators - i.e. a significant ranking drop
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    Google giving extra weight to proximity affecting ranking

    Hi everyone. I've been looking into what looks like a big drop in ranking for my locations. I run search grids every few weeks for a handful of keywords (11x11 grid, 200m spacing) I noticed a steep decline in average position for my locations some time between early Sep and late Oct I assumed...
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    1-star review extortion

    I got the same email last night re. my case. There's a case number in the subject line, but it wasn't told to us when we submitted the case. Glad to see it's working, albeit with some wrinkles

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