So are GWT Backlink reports enough to lift Penalty or get out of Penguin? via @Marie_

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So are GWT Backlink reports enough to lift Penalty or get out of Penguin? via @Marie_Haynes
by Ann Smarty at Threadwatch.org
August 17, 2013

Late last week Marie Haynes asked us to support her question for it to be covered in the next glorious video from Matt.

All ranting aside (oh I have a lot to rant about), I am just struggling to understand:

Previously Google said all you need for Disavow analysis was Google Webmaster Tools backlink report. Since then we've had a lot of complaints (and seen that with our own eyes) that Google's backlink reports are slightly different each time you download the data (which makes it kinda difficult to create an analysis)..
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And now in sample bad links we see backlinks that haven't even been included in Google's report...

So are you helping (as you claim to) or hindering, Google?